Meeting 11

Groovy stinks! It's the most awful thing ever innvteed! I read th FAQ on Groovy and I didn't understand something! How does it relate to SWT? There's no plan for it, it's useless! I didn't even bother looking through the reference docs, tutorials, wicked cool demos because I could tell at a glance that it's not FooGooLoo. There must be a Groovy conspiracy they CLAIM they give it away, but there's no free lunch.JavaFX is very, very cool. Swing is hard, JavaFX makes Swing easier. Sun is whole-hog on the deployment end, it's far better than it used to be (I must run at least WebStart demo a day and NEVER have a problem). JavaFX has it's place it's not meant to be the next general purpose scripting language, so don't bother wishing that it was. It's for pumping out GUIs. Swing is in nearly every browser, just like Flash, and it autoupdates, just like Flash, so when the quicker starting applet stuff comes out, it will come out fast, just like Flex did, and we will see a resurgence of applets on web pages. JavaFX will be a super-nice way of making those applets.There is no free lunch but there's free software, how about that!